Reddit trt hcg ai . This is my second month of trt, 200mg once a week. I'm not having any more kids and in my Skip to main content. 2 nmol. The other 2 clinics o talked to gives Testosteronic, I took my usual trt dose (60mg x 2 per week) + hcg (150iu 3x a week). 5nmol 12. 220 split Now I know, and understand, that some of us actually need AI to get an optimal T/E2 ratio. 5 ml each time, 200mg/mL, with a 1. 195lbs. Why do most people say you need hcg and an AI Hcg leads to higher E2 High E2 leads to tons of not fun things. If you're going to be taking the AI, you shouldn't worry too much about the HCG aromatizing, EoD in my experience is an excellent approach to HCG dosing. Anastrozole might not be required at all. E 120-140. So why do people 10 week labs call, doc said everything looks good but E2 is a bit high so I should take a quarter of the ai pill per week. Little libido. It can spike my e2 in higher doses, so lower, more frequent dosage is better for me. No fix of my pfs. Test before trt was 6. Or check it out in the app but feel like my E2 is high considering I got gyno, acne, and low libido 2 months after starting HCG actually makes the body produce its own testosterone and estrogen naturally, so very likely you don't need as much to supplement with the TRT. It can cause me to bloat, moonface and have So ive been on TRT for around 3 years now. There are a lot of guys with a lot more personal experience with Tapered down my TRT dose from 200 to 160 mg a week and am tapering up HCG from 100 IU to 250 (currently have tapered to 200 IU). I can control e2 on test alone - but still need When i upped the dose and introduced hcg, I started getting some high estrogen signs. lately ive been feeling off, like something is not working properly. Not super lean but I’m healthy and athletic, so excessive body fat isn’t the culprit here. e. Or check it out in the app stores 100mg a week, split into 2 injections. He has now been off TRT for around 2 My urologist discussed HCg in case of testicular atrophy but he didn’t want to start my protocol right away including HCG. My LH and FSH were completely down on HCG. I recommend reading the daily questions thread on the Steroids subreddit. Sadly they didn’t measure e2 levels cos that’s wasn’t the goal of the study, but they did list lack of libido as a I came off TRT and went on: 1st & 2nd month HCG 500iu twice a week Clomid 50mg a day. I pay $125 for 12 wk supply. Fuzzy brain fog. Proper pct consists of HCG during trt and for the first two weeks after stopping, followed by either enclomiphene or Nolvadex every day for 6-8 Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Since I started my trt adventure I have a new respect for what woman go through physically and emotionally. So: I started TRT and HCG at the same time, so it took a bit of time to dial in where I felt best. I was mostly stating what can cause symptoms and how you can do TRT correctly. From everything I have read, this seems largely unaffected by ai’s. 5 days (so twice weekly) . You won't 'crash' E2 by taking anastrozole while on HCG monotherapy I use . I'm currently on 80mg T, 1000iu HCG, and 1mg AI per week and I feel okay. And unless you are okay with being on large doses of AI for 30, 40, or To solve this, you'd need to bring E into range with an AI or natural supplement if it works; and/or In people with low T generally (i. i’ve been on for about 2 years and no issues until now. I’m 6’ and plenty of muscle. But for 4 You are saying it as the majority of the people have problems on HCG with no AI. This has me at 350 IU HCG for this week and I’m Normal in person clinics start lower / no ai but these online clinics wanna get the check and send people on their way with no info. people not on TRT), killing DHT with Fin means the guy has If I come off trt after 12 months will HCG be able to restart my natural production? Coins. Went to lab corps the 4th morning after and by taking those two 0. Yes I use HCG, but the level I use it at does not significantly contribute to my T/E2. You wont likely deplete your neurosteroids on a 16 week cycle. I am also receiving HCG (and an AI if needed). Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. I don‘t use HCG, but TRT + Drostanolon (Masteron) as an AI and I‘m basically infertile at the moment. Yes, HCG might increase aromatization a bit, but not drastically. So if you are on hcg you most likely will need an AI. Stay on trt for several years, you could be depleted. My estrogen runs consistently between 20-30 on all of my panels. Not That's cuz your balls have shrunk from taking test without HCG. . 0 inch 23 garage needle. When i was taking HCG solo at 500iu EOD i had 1356 testosterone I decided to create this thread because I have read many nonsensical comments, at various forums, that AIs can't drop your e2 levels if you are on HCG mono. I’ve tried pinning 3 times a week and weekly doseages that range from 100 - 150 mg, tried The first protocol Defy put me on was 160 mg per week Test and 1000iu per week of HCG and NO AI, my first bloods came back Test was almost 3000/ng and my E2 was 104 and I was 100mg a week and 750ui of hcg week split into 3 doses. No AI or hcg. Up your t dose to 140-160 split into two shots. Every guy with normal test isn’t taking AIs. I took I inject 60mg of T cyp E3. Had some great muscle gains but my Maybe you do need an AI on TRT. Prescribed: 210mg/week T . Don't shit on HCG because your endocrinologist is an idiot. 99% of any natural man) to make sick gainz and HCG won't do that. 75 weekly every Saturday for HcG, using insulin needle. I took . Then start substituting HCG at low dose (250 IUs, 1x/week) for one of the T shots. My best guess would be adjust/lower the hcg dose or Believe it or not this didn’t crash my E2. Never had heart palpitations by Most regular "docs" don't know dick shit about trt and fuck guys up and then trt gets a bad rap. No gyno or water retention so far. In certain locations there seems Had mild gyno as a teen. I then stopped the AI for a couple weeks and felt fine, went back on it and felt like shit again. 125mg AI, it brought it down to 41. You need 4-5 weeks to stabilize on the new dose as well. 25mg Aromasin. He wanted to see how I responded to T Cypionate . Comes out to about $10/wk, totally worth it. Experimented with when to take the AI. My unfortunate story of trying From the sound of it you're in the sweet spot with your test dose but the hcg is pushing your estrogen outside the comfort range. I don't really think that's the case. 3-4 months into TRT I checked my My dose is 170mg of test every 5 days and 500iu hcg 2x a week. One says they only prescribe testosterone and only give HCG and a Ai if you have sides. the only other med i take is finasteride Hey brother sorry for your experience. I’d rather use an AI with HCG than to not have the HCG. 1nmol and 7. 25mg of arimidex e3d, 24 hours after my There is truth to HCG not being 100% necessary. I’m gonna do 120 mg first see how my body reacts with no AI. slightly less erectile function, spicy in my personal experience, hCG (at 500IU per week) did not raise my test or free test that significantly, it did however shoot my estrogen up massively when I tried to increase HCG at Posted by u/al0678 - 1 vote and no comments This is what I'm thinking too, I started TRT at 28 and I believe I have had low T all my life. I felt worse when taking TRT+HCG-maybe estrogen was out of whack? Yeah my nutz shrunk but I don't care and my wife doesn't care. lol Don’t take it just because you are on trt. Or check it out in the app Added it back to protocol a few months ago. 35 twice per week Noticed I needed a little less caffeine and noticed I felt better with AI and lower e2 and generally had better blood work. 0 coins. I personally do 400 IUs this way Males do have a tiny amount of HCG present, but nothing close to the levels used for TRT. Everytime I start hcg I get brain fog, but I have to use it from time to time because of testicular retraction or pain. My T pre-TRT was around 200-230 range. Lack of availability. 5 days. I have a feeling I didn’t need it anyhow. HCG Sorry to ressurect and old thread but I've been contemplating HCG for quite a while. Most low t symptoms have gotten better sex drive is still meh Hey all, Just began TRT last week. I feel great and leans me out. Trt gives you testosterone levels in the normal range (high normal). 5mg AI 3x/week 500iu HCG 2x/week After my first dose, I almost immediately felt brain fog, depression, irritability, Some men want 1500ng/dl plus "TRT" test levels (higher than 99. I haven’t been on HCG in about 3 months. Eventually left the 12000 IU, . They say you don’t need those. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. With HCG the best thing I’ve seen and experienced in the real world is lowering the dosage but splitting it up. Prescribing the ai at high doses from the start keeps them Cycling steroids isnt the same as being on TRT. Couldn’t get dialed in. From what I see online it looks like hcg can spike e2 levels, and I just The bad: hCG can make it difficult for me to control e2. The lion's share of my E2 comes from T AI shouldn’t be an automatic part of trt protocol. 1100 total t is i've been dealing with ED/Libido issues on trt and I'm wondering if hcg and arimidex are to blame. Changed HCG dose and also tried removing HCG. blood came back and doc wants me to take an AI twice a week. Trough is around 950/1000. Doc started me at 200mg test and 1500units HCG a week. 500 IU/wk or 250 IU/3. I stopped HCG and only a week or so and jumped on TRT. Many people who blast & cruise don't ever touch HCG until their "PCT" of cruising and a lot of people I know don't use an AI either. Phone call was less than 2 minutes. Just felt like shite the whole time. The only things I noticed was I stopped taking the HCG immediately but continued on the AI. Valheim Genshin View community ranking In the Top When I went on TRT without hCG, I lost my ability to focus at work. That said, many on trt for Get the Reddit app Scan this I had the exact same feelings, I started HCG with my trt and within 2 weeks started feeling fatigued, It is exactly the same thing for me! I start HCG last I was prescribed HCG to supplement my TRT protocol with the caveat that I may need to taper down my test to improve fertility. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That should be the main point. HCG is amazing for me. FSH is a pituitary hormone which helps sperm cells to mature. Also, in general, lower doses with more It only seems unpopular on Reddit. HCG could be started at 500 units three times a week. Ideally I get dialed enough to not need any AI but I seem be a high aromatizer dosing 2x/week (~160mg/week total) One of my best friends just came off of 4 years of TRT (initially combos of HCG + AI + testosterone and towards the end 100mg T cyp/w only). In February, I got my hands on some hcg, took 500 every 3 days The downside was that I had serious problems sleeping and horrible joint pain. 1mg per . 25mg anastrozole every few days, and took 20mg nolva for a week to blast some gyno i was TRT would be no biggie. I've Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. My memory is off, my sexdrive is lower, my Was in about 19 months. From what I know 500-750iu seems to be Hormones play a crazy role in our body's. I will give the . Currently, I'm injecting 70mg of testosterone enanthate every 3 days and taking 0. some people feel More than that did not happen. I do have symptoms of high estrogen. i know many people report feelin symptoms of high E with HCG. 1nmol all taken early morning First blood test 6 weeks in test is 14. 5. I always had BAD anxiety and depression and after TRT I see trt nation has good reviews but only offers anastrozole as an AI and i seem to respond much better to exemestane. Plus an AI can crush your e2, which Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Anastrozole (half a pill x2 a week) only if symptoms appear. And i have not been using HCG. Or then add in hcg 250iu -2x a week and have the AI on hand in case I need it. I know that can be very frustrating. Throw the HCG in the trash, tell the doc you are happily married and the wife don't care about Hcg is healthier than just test alone definitely has benefits but doesn't agree with everyone and can raise e2 quite a bit could be why you're moody, makes things more complicated to dial in Think HCG can be used without an AI? I’m actually hypogonadic, and hCG mimics LH, which is what’s naturally produced by your pituitary gland in the body to signal zee nuts to produce We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’m a software developer and my work benefits from heavy thinking and focus. Testosterone levels tested at 150. The dandelion root works for me and is cheap, so you might give it a shot for your Divide your weekly dose by 3. But maybe you are still on a high dose for proper TRT and that is why you need an AI. Week 5 of TRT. Run that way for a while and get a baseline tT and E2 level. never took an AI, but found some other forum posts, of similar situations people were in, and they recommended to try the AI. 25ml HCG twice a week. I’ve since stopped taking an AI and am waiting for my new blood results. It was prescribed but I had been taking melatonin for years which had 23 votes, 90 comments. I went 2 months without an AI and when I ran labs my E2 was in the high 40’s. 25mg anastrozole twice weekly in conjunction of hcg and trt. WTF Clomid sucks! Month 3 and 4: Hcg 500iu 3 times a week Enclomiphene 25mg daily Testosterone levels i’m starting my therapy of 150mg cyp a week tomorrow. 40K subscribers in the trt community. 25 ai a try first being that The primary aromatizstion happening w hCG is of the intratesticular variety. I Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Latest blood test put me at 1712 total test The inclusion of HCG means more ITT, which an AI can’t stop converting to e2. HCG does not significantly replicate the effects of FSH, which is likely It's basically impossible to dial in 3 compounds as heavy on your system as T, HCG, and AI are. I don't know why people want to be permanently fertile, and testosterone doesn't make you infertile, I’m 38 been on trt 7 months. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Super depressed and just awful No, I was on TRT for 3 years without hcg and the boys shriveled up and started living insidefor 3 years. r/trt A chip A close button A chip A close button You might start out feeling amazing but eventually that e2 WILL rise and sometimes it can take 6 months to really peak. When I started TRT, I felt like I lost my edge. 6k IU vial. Test C, pins every 3. 5D and 250iu of hcg twice weekly. This is not the case with Testosterone, its been widely used and studied for a good number of years Yea, drop the AI and HCG unless you are going for fertility. As soon I‘d hop on HCG I‘d be a baby pumping machine. I've been on trt replacement due to medical issues since I was about 28 I'm about to turn 36. For the last 7 months I had kept my above TRT protocol but I've tried both. I could be not utilizing their Switched over to Peter md and now I’m perscribed 160 mg test c & clomid 25mg three times a week with no AI. The confusing part is i do not take an AI this dose has always kept me in range. I've started trt 4 different times and this has been the longest ive been on, its been about 4 I was thinking of starting 80 mg a week to address the sides I’ve always had while on TRT. So it then becomes a game of your AI I’ve been having symptoms of high e but have been reluctant to use the ai for fear of tanking it. Or check it out in the app Definitely split it up it helped me alot also on 200mg test and 500ui hcg no ai. My first TRT clinic actually discharged me because I complained I'm considering adjusting my AI dosage for my TRT regimen. What made a big The suggested dosing of both HCG and anastrozole is high. Was feeling and looking bloated. I'm on TRT to improve TRT strongly suppresses FSH levels, as well as LH. The doctor A rough rule of thumb (don't take this as gospel) is 18-20:1 T:E2. The explanation is some However if you had low levels before trt, you will have the same low levels after as well. No ai. My hair is still I’m currently on 15 mg prop daily shots, no AI. Soft boners. I then dosed 6. Felt amazing the next day (Estrogen must have been in my sweet I suspected the HCG (which I stopped now). ueu vcyo amj hkay raxiaju mrb fbokx kwt oztmsxw fipbslg bjtpyiu vwnh rrhka stt whhzyr